Ravenwood - 03/26/08 06:00 AM
How many anti-gun cliches can CNN cram into a news story? Let's see, the guns are just deadly guns, they're "cop killer" guns. They're the "guns of choice" and can shoot through schools. What, no Wild West reference?
The article itself is filled with anti-gun propaganda.
ATF special agent Tom Mangan says the .50-caliber rifle has become one of the "guns of choice" for the drug cartels. The weapon fires palm-sized .50-caliber rounds that can cut through just about anything.Okay, so big guns are bad. Check.Mangan showed CNN the power of the rifle on a gun range near Phoenix, Arizona. The weapon, a Barrett, was seized in an ATF raid. A round fired from 100 yards away tore through a car door and both sides of a bulletproof vest like those used by Mexican police.
"There's nothing that's going to stop this round," Mangan says.
The guns confiscated included AK-47 rifles and dozens of Fabrique National pistols. The semiautomatic pistols fire a 5.7-by-28 millimeter round, which is technically a rifle round, according to the ATF. Newell says the round has a special nickname in Mexico. "It's called 'mata policias,' or 'cop killer,' " he says.Okay, so little guns are bad too. Hmm, what does that leave?
For what it's worth, our AR-15 can penetrate a car door and both sides of a "bullet proof" vest too. And compared to the .50, it's got a bullet the size of a pea. And where do they get off claiming the 5.7x28 is technically a rifle round? Wasn't it specifically developed for the 5.7 handgun? Has anyone yet made a 5.7 varmint rifle? And why don't they point out that MAC-10s, TEC-9s, and Uzi's "technically" shoot a handgun round?
Such media bias and misunderstanding of basic firearms knowledge is not surprising. (I'm still trying to find that 25mm handgun.) We expect more of it as the Supreme Court ruling on the Second Amendment nears.
Blast from the past:
http://blog.joehuffman.org/2008/03/01/WeKnowThisGuy.aspx
Posted by: SayUncle at March 26, 2008 11:05 AMCNN's bullshit level is always high, but this one is of epic proportions.
Posted by: BobG at March 26, 2008 11:37 AMI believe the 5.7 round was used in the P90 first, and the matching handgun came along a little later. I suppose it's a rifle round in the same way that a .22 is a rifle round and a 9mm is a carbine round. I shoot .44 magnum out of a rifle too, but that doesn't make the round suddenly match the power of a .308.
Posted by: Laughingdog at March 26, 2008 11:56 AMCNN doesn't misunderstand a thing. They knowingly lie.
Posted by: straightarrow at March 26, 2008 6:46 PMI think Laughingdog is right about the 5.7 round being designed for the P90 and the pistol being an afterthought - but the P90 is a submachine gun, not a rifle. I don't blame anyone who depends on armor vests for protection for being concerned about the 5.7 - it's designed to overcome the problem most pistol rounds have of either being a little short on penetration when your opponents are armored, or having too much recoil for a handgun - but it's also a tiny bullet, and I'd certainly rather be shot with the 5.7 pistol than any deer rifle. (The full-auto P90 at close range is another matter, since it's designed to compensate for the tiny holes by making lots of them - but it's not as deadly as a full-auto rifle that makes lots of bigger holes at longer ranges. Or a 12 guage...)
Posted by: markm at March 27, 2008 8:03 PMMarkm is correct. The 5.7x28 was designed for the P90 subgun, and - by definition - subguns fire pistol cartridges.
It's a hot .22 Magnum, that's all. Nowhere near .22-250 or .220 Swift in power, much less .223/5.56 NATO.
But that's OK, the media never lets pesky things like facts get in the way of a story demonizing guns.
Posted by: Kevin Baker at March 31, 2008 11:06 PMIt's a shame that news outlets can't get things right when it comes to firearms. They don't even try to cover up their bias anymore.
I don't know if you've seen it or not, but I published a test where I shot a bunch of stuff at a ballistic vest to show how the "armor piercing" danger is skewed.
In it I fired a .300 Win Mag through a tree and into the vest - http://fateoflegions.blogspot.com/2008/03/part-3-ballistic-vest-live-fire-test.html
If the media had half a clue about firearms it would make life much easier for us.
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